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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby BigCurt on Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:40 am

Jball wrote:We got pick #18. Should be able to get a pretty good player there.



Should have their pick of the best couple of NT, 2nd or 3rd best FS, probably 3rd or 4th best OT, 2nd best CB, or any number of other positions.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby mojouw on Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:15 pm

Was just reading that most people feel Brandon Marshall is going to get shipped out of Denver via trade as soon as possible. One has to figure that the Ravens will fall all over themselves to get him. If that happens, corner might leap to the Steelers #1 draft priority. Right now, they lack a player that could stop a Flacco-Marshall combination.

While this likely won't happen, a ton of other moves could/will happen prior to April that may change everything.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby DarthSpartans20 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:43 pm

Curt, what other corners do you think are 1st or second round quality? I think of all the positions in football it is harder to find a quality cornerback after say round three than it is at any other position. I hope they address this shortcoming early and can get a playmaker on the outside.
In the last five years, only Cortland Finnegan and Al Harris were the only players not drafted in the first two rounds to make the Pro Bowl at cornerback.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby BigCurt on Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:23 am

DarthSpartans20 wrote:Curt, what other corners do you think are 1st or second round quality? I think of all the positions in football it is harder to find a quality cornerback after say round three than it is at any other position. I hope they address this shortcoming early and can get a playmaker on the outside.
In the last five years, only Cortland Finnegan and Al Harris were the only players not drafted in the first two rounds to make the Pro Bowl at cornerback.




First round is going to be tough for CBs. Haden is the best and IMO, 2nd is a pretty good drop off. Donovan Warren from Michigan is close. Patrick Robinson from FSU is another. 2nd round you get into a guy like Kyle Wilson from Boise State, Brandon Ghee from Wake Forest, Javier Arenas from Alabama, Trevard Lindley from Kentucky and posibly Perrish Cox from Ok. State. Then you have underclassmen like Ras-I Dowling from Virginia who hasn't decided, and Kareem Jackson from Alabama that just did but I'm not sure if he's good enough for the first 2 rounds.

2 guys I really like outside the first 2 rounds are Jerome Murphy from USF and Myron Lewis from Vandy. Dowling too. All those guys look to be CB/FS type players and I like that. And my small school guy is Akwasi Owusu-Ansah from Indiana(PA) but he has some injury concerns.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Steeler7588 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:55 pm

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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Creeping Death on Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:04 pm

I say a solid FB should top the list somewhere.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Master Blaster on Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:05 am

Creeping Death wrote:I say a solid FB should top the list somewhere.

The only way that'll happen is if Tomlin has the balls to tell Ariens to use one. If left up to pass happy Ariens it'll never happen.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Jball on Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:09 pm

Hey Curt, if you had the choice of Cody or Dan Williams at #18, who do you go with? I haven't seen a lot of Williams, just a few games. Cody is so big, his weight scares me.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby SteelHack on Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:56 pm

I am really not a fan of Cody at 18....but if its Cody or Dan Williams...I go Cody all day long....and I am scared to death of his weight issues.

If Cody is there in the 2nd...I am doing cartwheels.

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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby BigCurt on Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:12 pm

Jball wrote:Hey Curt, if you had the choice of Cody or Dan Williams at #18, who do you go with? I haven't seen a lot of Williams, just a few games. Cody is so big, his weight scares me.




That's hard to say. COdy is more of a textbook NT. 0 technique all the way. Yeah his weight is an issue but so is every other big fattie in the draft. Williams I think it a much safer pick. I went back and watched his games from last year and this year and didn't see a lot of difference. I question his potential, but he's in good shape for a man this size and does project nicely as a NT. I have a feeling with Brian Price declaring, it'll push Cody down for sure. Not sure Williams makes it to 18. If there's no secondary player worth the pick at 18, I probably look at the OTs on the board, and if still no one, I go Cody.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Master Blaster on Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:53 pm

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by cgolden on Jan 20, 2010 9:51 AM EST

Would the Steelers really use their first round pick on a running back? (AP Photo/Richard Shiro)
For the next two months just about everyone with the ability to punch keys on a keyboard will become draft experts and publish their very own mock draft. The Steelers enter the 2010 draft season with more question marks than normal and certainly their needs will be more clearly defined once the status of players like Casey Hampton, Ryan Clark and Willie Parker are resolved, but for now here's what the mockers are mocking.....

Draft Countdown: CJ Spiller (RB-Clemson) - One of the benefits of being a strong organization and consistent winner is that you can always have one eye on the future. Sure the Steelers have a need or two but for the most part their roster is in great shape and their rookies aren't forced to step into the starting lineup from day one. Lawrence Timmons, who is finally getting a chance to start this season after serving a two year apprenticeship, is a perfect example. A couple of years ago Pittsburgh used their first round pick on Rashard Mendenhall and it wouldn't hurt to bring in someone like Clemson's C.J. Spiller to replace the aging and injury-prone Willie Parker as the "Lightning" to Mendenhall's "Thunder". A versatile player with blazing speed who is capable of making an impact as a runner, receiver and return man, Spiller isn't an every down workhorse but he is an explosive playmaker that defenses must account for at all times. It's not an exaggeration to say that Spiller is a threat to take it the distance at any time from anywhere on the field and the success that fellow speed demon Chris Johnson is having in the NFL will surely work in Spiller's favor on Draft Day. Free safety might also be a need if Ryan Clark bolts as a free agent and don't be shocked if the Steelers follow their recent M.O. and just throw everyone another curve ball in the first round.

Scout (2 Rounds): Bryan Bulaga (OT-Iowa) - The Steelers had a down year and it's obvious they need help on the offensive line. Bulaga's athleticism will help and he'll start from day one.

Round 2: Dominique Franks (CB-Oklahoma) - The Steelers secondary was woeful in '09 and it's evident that they need an upgrade. Franks has great size and cover skills and will add relief in '10.

NFL.com (Brooks): Patrick Robinson (CB-FSU) - The Steelers' suspect secondary repeatedly cost them down the stretch, so Mike Tomlin shores up one side of the field.

Walter Football (3 rounds): Earl Thomas (FS-Texas) - Safety will be a big need for the Steelers this offseason. Both Ryan Clark (30) and Tyrone Carter (34) will be free agents in March, so Pittsburgh will need a new starter across from Troy Polamalu and some depth as well.

Round 2: Trevard Lindley (CB-Kentucky) - The Steelers continue to upgrade a secondary that couldn't stop Bruce Gradkowski in a must-win December game. I'll be shocked if they don't really try to repair their defensive backfield this offseason.
Round 3: Sergio Kindle (DE/OLB-Texas) - The Steelers have two great pass-rushing linebackers, but they don't exactly have the best depth at the position. Also, don't forget that James Harrison turns 32 in May. Sergio Kindle slips a bit here, so Pittsburgh is getting great value.

Draft Tek (5 Round Simulator): Patrick Robinson (CB-Florida State) - Robinson is a potent combination of size, instincts, and athleticism. The Steelers will heavily consider top corner talent. They'll also look for reassurances that Robinson's head is on straight after involvement in the cheating scandal at FSU. -Patrick (Drafttek Steelers Analyst)

Round 2: Darrell Stuckey (SS-Kansas State) - This is a great pick of a top player at a position of need. The Steelers desperately need an upgrade over Tyrone Carter with Polamalu missing so many games. FS Ryan Clark is also an UFA doubling the need in the defensive backfield.-Patrick (Drafttek Steelers Analyst)
Round 3: Kam Chancellor (FS-Virginia Tech)
Round 4: Mike Neal (DE-Purdue)
Round 5: Cliff Matthews (OLB34-South Carolina)

Draft Daddy: Perrish Cox (CB-Oklahoma State) - The Steelers may be targeting CBs, Cox is a strong man-to-man player with ball skills.

New Sport Draft: Terrence Cody (DT-Alabama) - Cody is a monster in the middle. He would fit perfect in the Steelers defense. I know they already have a great D-line but they get much younger and get a run-stopper to help their D-line.

Round 2: Anthony McCoy (TE-USC) - McCoy is one of the top rated TEs in my 2010 NFL mock draft. At 6'5, 250 pounds, McCoy should be able to help an NFL team in the passing game.
Round 3: Anderson Russell (FS-Ohio State)
Round 4: Ryan D'Imperio (ILB-Rutgers)
Round 5: Aaron Webster (S-Cincinnati)


NFL Draft King: Earl Thomas (FS-Texas) - The Troy Polamolu loss crushed the defending Super Bowl champs any chance of a repeat. The Steelers gave up a league most 5 leads in the 4th quarter this past season which was the main reason they were on the outside looking in on the post season tournament. With the possibility of Ryan Clark leaving via free agency, look for Pitt to select this ballhawk out of Texas who has the ability to stop the run, with the ability to capitalize on the oppositions mistakes through the air with the ability to take it back to the house. The Steelers could also go with C.J. Spiller here to work with Mendenhall, or possibly a Receiver as Hines Ward is on his last legs.

Football Expert: Mike Iupati (G-Idaho) - The Steelers build their team on the offensive line and defensive front seven. They also think long term meaning just because their front five is a weakness does not necessarily make them rush out and draft a player in the first round to "solve" that problem. Championship rosters are not built on plugging rookies in immediately all the time. In this case it appears the tackle class is deep enough for them to take a shot, but I'm looking for them to get back to their roots. The Steelers I know run the football and the guard position drives it. Roethlisberger can't keep throwing the ball 500 times per season and expect to have a long career. It's not the nearly 3 sacks per game he absorbs, it's the countless hits. Iupati is showing signs of being an elite interior blocker. If he shows up big at every step of the draft process it is likely for him to sneak into the middle of the first round. A lot of the early interior linemen taken in recent seasons have been successful which makes this choice less outrageous than it seems.

Draft Matters: Donovan Warren (CB-Michigan) - Troy Polamalu's injury has really exposed the secondary of the Steelers. His return will be a big help, but the Steelers need another defensive back to shoulder some of the load. Ike Taylor hasn't been playing at a very high level and is being targeted too often. Donovan Warren is the third best corner in this draft and fits nicely at 18.

NFL Draft Dog: Terrence Cody (NT-Alabama) - Cody (6' 5" 365 lbs) is a monster on the inside and can dunk a basketball at his current weight. Yes I know Cody is a little one dimensional, but as a two-down run stuffing nose tackle he is incredible.

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Clearly there doesn't seem to be a consensus choice out there for the Steelers just yet. If we can come to one conclusion based on these eleven mocks it's that the biggest need on this team appears to be on the defensive side of the ball. Four mocks have the Steelers taking a cornerback, while free safety and nose tackle are the only other positions that appear more than once.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Dwinsgames on Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:46 pm

Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby BigCurt on Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:00 am

Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best


Seriously, that guy gets paid for that?
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Dwinsgames on Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:41 am

BigCurt wrote:
Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best


Seriously, that guy gets paid for that?



Ummm yea ....

I guess when you think about it , a sports commentator . " supposed journalist " and ( and I use the term very loosely ) " draft expert" has to be battling with weather man for best job in the world ( only jobs I can think of off the top of my head where you can be wrong more often than not and still get paid) .............

I cant imagine the best CB in the draft sticking to 16 .......

but that is only a small part of my problem with that mock ... again its only just another opinion though ... :OK:

Personally I see 4 QB's off the board in the top 20 selections and good ole Bucky does not have 1 come off till Arizona at 26 and then its not even the best QB in the draft IMO .... so who knows LOL
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Dwinsgames on Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:40 pm

Dwinsgames wrote:
BigCurt wrote:
Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best


Seriously, that guy gets paid for that?



Ummm yea ....

I guess when you think about it , a sports commentator . " supposed journalist " and ( and I use the term very loosely ) " draft expert" has to be battling with weather man for best job in the world ( only jobs I can think of off the top of my head where you can be wrong more often than not and still get paid) .............

I cant imagine the best CB in the draft sticking to 16 .......

but that is only a small part of my problem with that mock ... again its only just another opinion though ... :OK:

Personally I see 4 QB's off the board in the top 20 selections and good ole Bucky does not have 1 come off till Arizona at 26 and then its not even the best QB in the draft IMO .... so who knows LOL



haha I got in on Buckys chat on nfl.com ....

Hi Bucky I was looking over your mock draft v1.0 and was actually shocked that you did not have a QB going before 26 and then It was Sam " I am fragile" Bradford .... I can not fathom any scenario that at the very minimum 3 do not go before selection 20 and would not be shocked if 4 went by then .... I could see the Rams,Redskins , Panthers, Jags ,Raiders,Bill, Broncos ,Seahawks ,and 49ers all being interested in a Franchise QB that is 9 teams after what looks like 4 or 5 legitimate 1st round type QBs and even with your first one coming off the board at 26 he is the second or 3rd best prospect IMO it just baffles me ....and to be honest 18 is far to soon for Patrick Robinson and no way Joe Haden lasts till 16 he is the best CB in the draft and everyone is looking to stop the passing game this league now has become ...just my thoughts
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Paul, Thanks for the detailed analysis. It is feedback like this that makes mock drafts interesting, and I'm more than happy to respond to your thoughts. The reason I don't think many QBs will go in the first round is due to a combination of reasons. First, the transition from spread offense operator to leading a conventional offense has proven to be a difficult one in recent years. Look at Alex Smith and Vince Young as examples of QBs who struggled making the switch to conventional QB play. Additionally, several of the top QBs have injury issues that could become concerns as the draft nears. Jimmy Clausen, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy are all recovering from ailments that may limit their ability to compete in workouts, and their long term prospects are still uncertain in the minds in many evaluators. When given the option for choosing a safer option at the top of the draft, many will take that route and hope that they can pick up a QB in 2nd round.


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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby mojouw on Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:52 pm

Dwinsgames wrote:
Dwinsgames wrote:
BigCurt wrote:
Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best


Seriously, that guy gets paid for that?



Ummm yea ....

I guess when you think about it , a sports commentator . " supposed journalist " and ( and I use the term very loosely ) " draft expert" has to be battling with weather man for best job in the world ( only jobs I can think of off the top of my head where you can be wrong more often than not and still get paid) .............

I cant imagine the best CB in the draft sticking to 16 .......

but that is only a small part of my problem with that mock ... again its only just another opinion though ... :OK:

Personally I see 4 QB's off the board in the top 20 selections and good ole Bucky does not have 1 come off till Arizona at 26 and then its not even the best QB in the draft IMO .... so who knows LOL



haha I got in on Buckys chat on nfl.com ....

Hi Bucky I was looking over your mock draft v1.0 and was actually shocked that you did not have a QB going before 26 and then It was Sam " I am fragile" Bradford .... I can not fathom any scenario that at the very minimum 3 do not go before selection 20 and would not be shocked if 4 went by then .... I could see the Rams,Redskins , Panthers, Jags ,Raiders,Bill, Broncos ,Seahawks ,and 49ers all being interested in a Franchise QB that is 9 teams after what looks like 4 or 5 legitimate 1st round type QBs and even with your first one coming off the board at 26 he is the second or 3rd best prospect IMO it just baffles me ....and to be honest 18 is far to soon for Patrick Robinson and no way Joe Haden lasts till 16 he is the best CB in the draft and everyone is looking to stop the passing game this league now has become ...just my thoughts
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Paul, Thanks for the detailed analysis. It is feedback like this that makes mock drafts interesting, and I'm more than happy to respond to your thoughts. The reason I don't think many QBs will go in the first round is due to a combination of reasons. First, the transition from spread offense operator to leading a conventional offense has proven to be a difficult one in recent years. Look at Alex Smith and Vince Young as examples of QBs who struggled making the switch to conventional QB play. Additionally, several of the top QBs have injury issues that could become concerns as the draft nears. Jimmy Clausen, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy are all recovering from ailments that may limit their ability to compete in workouts, and their long term prospects are still uncertain in the minds in many evaluators. When given the option for choosing a safer option at the top of the draft, many will take that route and hope that they can pick up a QB in 2nd round.


http://chat.nfl.com/front/index/725


At least he gave a coherent reply. Not saying I agree with it, but at least he had some sort of chain of argument to back up his mock. Ideally, every mock should be posted with a short narrative intro that explains why the person is having the picks break down like they are. Too often this doesn't happen.

But seriously, no Qb off the board until before #26? Has that ever even happened before? Would it ever happen?
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby BigCurt on Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:40 pm

They should arrest him for robbery when he picks up his paycheck.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby DSH_97 on Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:30 am

Hmmm....This might be another case of trading back for a better return on talent.

McCoy is going to be just fine by the time the combine comes around. No later than a mid 1st rd pick, if you ask me. He'd be a nice addition to a team like New England, with an established but aging QB that had his share of down time (Brady is 32, believe it or not...).

On the subject of DBs, I honestly think, behind Berry, Allen is the best safety coming out. I don't think the Steelers have a chance in hell to secure Berry on their roster. It would be a miracle on 1 Art Rooney Dr, if they pulled it off. I don't know much about the kid from LSU, only that he's virtually the same size as Mays, whom I'm not that high on. Mays seems to be stuck on stupid when it comes to his own talent, rather looking for the killing blow, than to make plays. And there's no reason at all to expect Darrell Stuckey in Pittsburgh. They need a Free Safety back there that can cover ground quickly, without delay. Not a hitter, a playmaker. At corner back, I'm still in the Brandon Ghee camp. I still like him as a player, as I do Myron Lewis, who I think can be a FS as well. The only thing that bothers me about Ghee is the number of INTs he's had during his career. A crap load of deflections though, which is alright by me. And he covers well too. However....
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Master Blaster on Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:27 am

DSH_97 wrote:Hmmm....This might be another case of trading back for a better return on talent.

McCoy is going to be just fine by the time the combine comes around. No later than a mid 1st rd pick, if you ask me. He'd be a nice addition to a team like New England, with an established but aging QB that had his share of down time (Brady is 32, believe it or not...).

On the subject of DBs, I honestly think, behind Berry, Allen is the best safety coming out. I don't think the Steelers have a chance in hell to secure Berry on their roster. It would be a miracle on 1 Art Rooney Dr, if they pulled it off. I don't know much about the kid from LSU, only that he's virtually the same size as Mays, whom I'm not that high on. Mays seems to be stuck on stupid when it comes to his own talent, rather looking for the killing blow, than to make plays. And there's no reason at all to expect Darrell Stuckey in Pittsburgh. They need a Free Safety back there that can cover ground quickly, without delay. Not a hitter, a playmaker. At corner back, I'm still in the Brandon Ghee camp. I still like him as a player, as I do Myron Lewis, who I think can be a FS as well. The only thing that bothers me about Ghee is the number of INTs he's had during his career. A crap load of deflections though, which is alright by me. And he covers well too. However....

:reading: I'll take a play making hitter any day.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby DSH_97 on Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:04 am

Master Blaster wrote:
DSH_97 wrote:Hmmm....This might be another case of trading back for a better return on talent.

McCoy is going to be just fine by the time the combine comes around. No later than a mid 1st rd pick, if you ask me. He'd be a nice addition to a team like New England, with an established but aging QB that had his share of down time (Brady is 32, believe it or not...).

On the subject of DBs, I honestly think, behind Berry, Allen is the best safety coming out. I don't think the Steelers have a chance in hell to secure Berry on their roster. It would be a miracle on 1 Art Rooney Dr, if they pulled it off. I don't know much about the kid from LSU, only that he's virtually the same size as Mays, whom I'm not that high on. Mays seems to be stuck on stupid when it comes to his own talent, rather looking for the killing blow, than to make plays. And there's no reason at all to expect Darrell Stuckey in Pittsburgh. They need a Free Safety back there that can cover ground quickly, without delay. Not a hitter, a playmaker. At corner back, I'm still in the Brandon Ghee camp. I still like him as a player, as I do Myron Lewis, who I think can be a FS as well. The only thing that bothers me about Ghee is the number of INTs he's had during his career. A crap load of deflections though, which is alright by me. And he covers well too. However....

:reading: I'll take a play making hitter any day.


In saying a playmaker, not a hitter, I'm, referring to the mentality of the player first and foremost. The difference between Ed Reed and Ryan Clark....
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby BigCurt on Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:38 am

DSH_97 wrote:Hmmm....This might be another case of trading back for a better return on talent.

McCoy is going to be just fine by the time the combine comes around. No later than a mid 1st rd pick, if you ask me. He'd be a nice addition to a team like New England, with an established but aging QB that had his share of down time (Brady is 32, believe it or not...).

On the subject of DBs, I honestly think, behind Berry, Allen is the best safety coming out. I don't think the Steelers have a chance in hell to secure Berry on their roster. It would be a miracle on 1 Art Rooney Dr, if they pulled it off. I don't know much about the kid from LSU, only that he's virtually the same size as Mays, whom I'm not that high on. Mays seems to be stuck on stupid when it comes to his own talent, rather looking for the killing blow, than to make plays. And there's no reason at all to expect Darrell Stuckey in Pittsburgh. They need a Free Safety back there that can cover ground quickly, without delay. Not a hitter, a playmaker. At corner back, I'm still in the Brandon Ghee camp. I still like him as a player, as I do Myron Lewis, who I think can be a FS as well. The only thing that bothers me about Ghee is the number of INTs he's had during his career. A crap load of deflections though, which is alright by me. And he covers well too. However....


Earl Thomas is the 2nd best safety. And if Colt McCoy is a first round pick in April, then the end of the world can't be far behind.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Dwinsgames on Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:17 am

BigCurt wrote: if Colt McCoy is a first round pick in April, then the end of the world can't be far behind.



:rofl:

both could be true ......

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I think it will depend on who is closer Bucky Brookes or me on how many go top 20 or so ...

Bucky thinks 1 will go at 26 if that is the case Mcoy does touch round 1

I think 3 go top 20 with a good chance of 4 if that happens Mcoy could be a first rounder ....

See Tampa last year With Freeman at 17 and the Bills taking Losman at 22 in the 04 draft ..


since 2000

twice only 1 QB was taken in the first round ...

4 times 3 where taken

1 time 4 guys where chosen

twice 2 where taken

so 24 QBs taken in the first round in the last 10 Drafts many of which never have come close to the billing they got nor proved to have been worthy of such a high selection point and it is still to early to tell with many of them .......

We had the year of the QB in the 83 draft I guess the 02 with the draft of no QB with David Garrard perhaps the most successful guy from the entire draft and he was a 4th rounder :blink: :bag:
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Master Blaster on Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:55 am

STEELCURTIN55 wrote:
zulater wrote:I'm going guard- center in the early rounds, and OT depth in the 3rd or 4th. Hartwig and Essex have to be replaced sooner rather than later. ( Essex is a nice depth guy though) I can live with our starting tackles, but I think we need to find a good young player with starter potential to keep Max Starks motivated.


Zu, how do you think the NT situation is going to play out?

IMO, they should have drafted Casey's replacement a couple of years ago. It seems foolish to not have taken a more proactive approach and not let the situation get to this point. Now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place given that Casey is soon to be a free agent and his replacement, Hoke is thirty-two years old. I done buy into the notion of having Hood fill in because he's not a legitimate nose tackle in the Casey Hampton mold. I also don't like the idea of throwing money at a player that won't live up to it, especially at his age.

It goes without saying that both lines need to be addressed, but the DL, IMO, needs an immediate infusion of young talent. I'm afraid Aaron Smith's body is telling him it's time to consider retirement. He's been getting injured more frequently and they've been long term injuries.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby Master Blaster on Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:57 am

Dwinsgames wrote:
BigCurt wrote: if Colt McCoy is a first round pick in April, then the end of the world can't be far behind.



:rofl:

both could be true ......

:bag:

I think it will depend on who is closer Bucky Brookes or me on how many go top 20 or so ...

Bucky thinks 1 will go at 26 if that is the case Mcoy does touch round 1

I think 3 go top 20 with a good chance of 4 if that happens Mcoy could be a first rounder ....

See Tampa last year With Freeman at 17 and the Bills taking Losman at 22 in the 04 draft ..


since 2000

twice only 1 QB was taken in the first round ...

4 times 3 where taken

1 time 4 guys where chosen

twice 2 where taken

so 24 QBs taken in the first round in the last 10 Drafts many of which never have come close to the billing they got nor proved to have been worthy of such a high selection point and it is still to early to tell with many of them .......

We had the year of the QB in the 83 draft I guess the 02 with the draft of no QB with David Garrard perhaps the most successful guy from the entire draft and he was a 4th rounder :blink: :bag:

Don't forget the raiders taking Russell too.
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Re: 2010 draft needs

Postby BigCurt on Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:54 pm

Tim Tebow is improving Colt's draft status every practice at the Senior Bowl... :laughing:
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