Jball wrote:We got pick #18. Should be able to get a pretty good player there.
Should have their pick of the best couple of NT, 2nd or 3rd best FS, probably 3rd or 4th best OT, 2nd best CB, or any number of other positions.
Jball wrote:We got pick #18. Should be able to get a pretty good player there.



DarthSpartans20 wrote:Curt, what other corners do you think are 1st or second round quality? I think of all the positions in football it is harder to find a quality cornerback after say round three than it is at any other position. I hope they address this shortcoming early and can get a playmaker on the outside.
In the last five years, only Cortland Finnegan and Al Harris were the only players not drafted in the first two rounds to make the Pro Bowl at cornerback.



Creeping Death wrote:I say a solid FB should top the list somewhere.






Jball wrote:Hey Curt, if you had the choice of Cody or Dan Williams at #18, who do you go with? I haven't seen a lot of Williams, just a few games. Cody is so big, his weight scares me.



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Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best

BigCurt wrote:Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best
Seriously, that guy gets paid for that?

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Dwinsgames wrote:BigCurt wrote:Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best
Seriously, that guy gets paid for that?
Ummm yea ....
I guess when you think about it , a sports commentator . " supposed journalist " and ( and I use the term very loosely ) " draft expert" has to be battling with weather man for best job in the world ( only jobs I can think of off the top of my head where you can be wrong more often than not and still get paid) .............
I cant imagine the best CB in the draft sticking to 16 .......
but that is only a small part of my problem with that mock ... again its only just another opinion though ...
Personally I see 4 QB's off the board in the top 20 selections and good ole Bucky does not have 1 come off till Arizona at 26 and then its not even the best QB in the draft IMO .... so who knows LOL
Hi Bucky I was looking over your mock draft v1.0 and was actually shocked that you did not have a QB going before 26 and then It was Sam " I am fragile" Bradford .... I can not fathom any scenario that at the very minimum 3 do not go before selection 20 and would not be shocked if 4 went by then .... I could see the Rams,Redskins , Panthers, Jags ,Raiders,Bill, Broncos ,Seahawks ,and 49ers all being interested in a Franchise QB that is 9 teams after what looks like 4 or 5 legitimate 1st round type QBs and even with your first one coming off the board at 26 he is the second or 3rd best prospect IMO it just baffles me ....and to be honest 18 is far to soon for Patrick Robinson and no way Joe Haden lasts till 16 he is the best CB in the draft and everyone is looking to stop the passing game this league now has become ...just my thoughts
Bucky Brooks, NFL.com
Bucky Brooks, NFL.com
Paul, Thanks for the detailed analysis. It is feedback like this that makes mock drafts interesting, and I'm more than happy to respond to your thoughts. The reason I don't think many QBs will go in the first round is due to a combination of reasons. First, the transition from spread offense operator to leading a conventional offense has proven to be a difficult one in recent years. Look at Alex Smith and Vince Young as examples of QBs who struggled making the switch to conventional QB play. Additionally, several of the top QBs have injury issues that could become concerns as the draft nears. Jimmy Clausen, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy are all recovering from ailments that may limit their ability to compete in workouts, and their long term prospects are still uncertain in the minds in many evaluators. When given the option for choosing a safer option at the top of the draft, many will take that route and hope that they can pick up a QB in 2nd round.
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Dwinsgames wrote:Dwinsgames wrote:BigCurt wrote:Dwinsgames wrote:Patrick Robinson CB Florida St.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815d58ce&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
but notice 2 spots higher is where the best CB in the draft goes ...If it plays out that way I can not imagine ( if CB is the target ) they don't move up a few spots and get the best
Seriously, that guy gets paid for that?
Ummm yea ....
I guess when you think about it , a sports commentator . " supposed journalist " and ( and I use the term very loosely ) " draft expert" has to be battling with weather man for best job in the world ( only jobs I can think of off the top of my head where you can be wrong more often than not and still get paid) .............
I cant imagine the best CB in the draft sticking to 16 .......
but that is only a small part of my problem with that mock ... again its only just another opinion though ...
Personally I see 4 QB's off the board in the top 20 selections and good ole Bucky does not have 1 come off till Arizona at 26 and then its not even the best QB in the draft IMO .... so who knows LOL
haha I got in on Buckys chat on nfl.com ....Hi Bucky I was looking over your mock draft v1.0 and was actually shocked that you did not have a QB going before 26 and then It was Sam " I am fragile" Bradford .... I can not fathom any scenario that at the very minimum 3 do not go before selection 20 and would not be shocked if 4 went by then .... I could see the Rams,Redskins , Panthers, Jags ,Raiders,Bill, Broncos ,Seahawks ,and 49ers all being interested in a Franchise QB that is 9 teams after what looks like 4 or 5 legitimate 1st round type QBs and even with your first one coming off the board at 26 he is the second or 3rd best prospect IMO it just baffles me ....and to be honest 18 is far to soon for Patrick Robinson and no way Joe Haden lasts till 16 he is the best CB in the draft and everyone is looking to stop the passing game this league now has become ...just my thoughts
Bucky Brooks, NFL.com
Bucky Brooks, NFL.com
Paul, Thanks for the detailed analysis. It is feedback like this that makes mock drafts interesting, and I'm more than happy to respond to your thoughts. The reason I don't think many QBs will go in the first round is due to a combination of reasons. First, the transition from spread offense operator to leading a conventional offense has proven to be a difficult one in recent years. Look at Alex Smith and Vince Young as examples of QBs who struggled making the switch to conventional QB play. Additionally, several of the top QBs have injury issues that could become concerns as the draft nears. Jimmy Clausen, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy are all recovering from ailments that may limit their ability to compete in workouts, and their long term prospects are still uncertain in the minds in many evaluators. When given the option for choosing a safer option at the top of the draft, many will take that route and hope that they can pick up a QB in 2nd round.
http://chat.nfl.com/front/index/725




DSH_97 wrote:Hmmm....This might be another case of trading back for a better return on talent.
McCoy is going to be just fine by the time the combine comes around. No later than a mid 1st rd pick, if you ask me. He'd be a nice addition to a team like New England, with an established but aging QB that had his share of down time (Brady is 32, believe it or not...).
On the subject of DBs, I honestly think, behind Berry, Allen is the best safety coming out. I don't think the Steelers have a chance in hell to secure Berry on their roster. It would be a miracle on 1 Art Rooney Dr, if they pulled it off. I don't know much about the kid from LSU, only that he's virtually the same size as Mays, whom I'm not that high on. Mays seems to be stuck on stupid when it comes to his own talent, rather looking for the killing blow, than to make plays. And there's no reason at all to expect Darrell Stuckey in Pittsburgh. They need a Free Safety back there that can cover ground quickly, without delay. Not a hitter, a playmaker. At corner back, I'm still in the Brandon Ghee camp. I still like him as a player, as I do Myron Lewis, who I think can be a FS as well. The only thing that bothers me about Ghee is the number of INTs he's had during his career. A crap load of deflections though, which is alright by me. And he covers well too. However....
I'll take a play making hitter any day.

Master Blaster wrote:DSH_97 wrote:Hmmm....This might be another case of trading back for a better return on talent.
McCoy is going to be just fine by the time the combine comes around. No later than a mid 1st rd pick, if you ask me. He'd be a nice addition to a team like New England, with an established but aging QB that had his share of down time (Brady is 32, believe it or not...).
On the subject of DBs, I honestly think, behind Berry, Allen is the best safety coming out. I don't think the Steelers have a chance in hell to secure Berry on their roster. It would be a miracle on 1 Art Rooney Dr, if they pulled it off. I don't know much about the kid from LSU, only that he's virtually the same size as Mays, whom I'm not that high on. Mays seems to be stuck on stupid when it comes to his own talent, rather looking for the killing blow, than to make plays. And there's no reason at all to expect Darrell Stuckey in Pittsburgh. They need a Free Safety back there that can cover ground quickly, without delay. Not a hitter, a playmaker. At corner back, I'm still in the Brandon Ghee camp. I still like him as a player, as I do Myron Lewis, who I think can be a FS as well. The only thing that bothers me about Ghee is the number of INTs he's had during his career. A crap load of deflections though, which is alright by me. And he covers well too. However....
I'll take a play making hitter any day.


DSH_97 wrote:Hmmm....This might be another case of trading back for a better return on talent.
McCoy is going to be just fine by the time the combine comes around. No later than a mid 1st rd pick, if you ask me. He'd be a nice addition to a team like New England, with an established but aging QB that had his share of down time (Brady is 32, believe it or not...).
On the subject of DBs, I honestly think, behind Berry, Allen is the best safety coming out. I don't think the Steelers have a chance in hell to secure Berry on their roster. It would be a miracle on 1 Art Rooney Dr, if they pulled it off. I don't know much about the kid from LSU, only that he's virtually the same size as Mays, whom I'm not that high on. Mays seems to be stuck on stupid when it comes to his own talent, rather looking for the killing blow, than to make plays. And there's no reason at all to expect Darrell Stuckey in Pittsburgh. They need a Free Safety back there that can cover ground quickly, without delay. Not a hitter, a playmaker. At corner back, I'm still in the Brandon Ghee camp. I still like him as a player, as I do Myron Lewis, who I think can be a FS as well. The only thing that bothers me about Ghee is the number of INTs he's had during his career. A crap load of deflections though, which is alright by me. And he covers well too. However....

BigCurt wrote: if Colt McCoy is a first round pick in April, then the end of the world can't be far behind.

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STEELCURTIN55 wrote:zulater wrote:I'm going guard- center in the early rounds, and OT depth in the 3rd or 4th. Hartwig and Essex have to be replaced sooner rather than later. ( Essex is a nice depth guy though) I can live with our starting tackles, but I think we need to find a good young player with starter potential to keep Max Starks motivated.
Zu, how do you think the NT situation is going to play out?


Dwinsgames wrote:BigCurt wrote: if Colt McCoy is a first round pick in April, then the end of the world can't be far behind.
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both could be true ......
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I think it will depend on who is closer Bucky Brookes or me on how many go top 20 or so ...
Bucky thinks 1 will go at 26 if that is the case Mcoy does touch round 1
I think 3 go top 20 with a good chance of 4 if that happens Mcoy could be a first rounder ....
See Tampa last year With Freeman at 17 and the Bills taking Losman at 22 in the 04 draft ..
since 2000
twice only 1 QB was taken in the first round ...
4 times 3 where taken
1 time 4 guys where chosen
twice 2 where taken
so 24 QBs taken in the first round in the last 10 Drafts many of which never have come close to the billing they got nor proved to have been worthy of such a high selection point and it is still to early to tell with many of them .......
We had the year of the QB in the 83 draft I guess the 02 with the draft of no QB with David Garrard perhaps the most successful guy from the entire draft and he was a 4th rounder![]()




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